Talk:Tariff
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De-industrialization, salary deflation and debt crisis
[edit]This new section added by an IP editor is on the edge of OpEd. It is substantially reliant on one source, the economist Jacques Sabir. The article as a whole needs to reflect a reasonable balance between the favourable and unfavourable (rational) views of the economic impact of tariffs. I suggest that this new section takes the balance too far and question whether it should stand. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 18:04, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- It looks like a massive NPOV violation to me. Possibly it could be fixed up as a paragraph in some other section, if someone were willing to do the work, but as it stands I'd prefer just removing it. - CRGreathouse (t | c) 21:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
Wow, this article is really klunky
[edit]Sorry, but this article needs a lot of work. Why is there a section heading with nothing underneath it? The Optimal Tariff section is completely unintelligible. I see it was added during a mysterious period in 2018 when several months worth of revisions have disappeared. (My understanding is there are two senses: (1) where the tariff is set at the rate that maximizes revenue; and (2) when a tariff can get foreign exporters to lower their prices in response and thus in effect pay part or all of the tax revenue, increasing net welfare for the home country.)
The Keynes section should probably be cut out into a separate article. Way too long making it WP:UNDUE. The American history section is rambling and way too long, especially considering there is a separate article on that subject.
And the supply & demand chart is ugly & not properly labeled. It should be replaced with the old chart that is much easier to understand. I see it still exists in the Free Trade article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EffectOfTariff.svg
The subsections on how tariffs are calculated nowadays is interesting & potentially useful, I guess, but why are they under the History section?
Then there's a big section on the history of Armenian tariffs since 2015 with no citations. Why?
I could go on, but you get the idea. This thing needs major surgery. Warren Platts (talk) 17:22, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- So you know what to do. "If you want anything done properly around here, you have to do it yourself". --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:15, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed - took a crack at winding back or at least flagging additions by some IP and now-blocked editors who dumped sections of other articles over here or otherwise leaned really heavily on op-eds or single sources. Lots of work still to be done but hopefully it's a bit less cumbersome to wrap one's head around Superb Owl (talk) 07:01, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
NPOV Issues
[edit]This article reads like it was written by the US Chamber of Commerce and completely fails to maintain a neutral point of view. Significant changes are necessary to fix this. The section on trade deficits in particular is embarrassing. MrJ567 (talk) 02:23, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Right now, that section has four sources that each support the view that most economists hold. But feel free to add counterbalancing text that cites the work of at least one respected economist. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 16:43, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
Article requires significant updates.
[edit]Due to the largest tariff implementations in modern history by United States President Donald Trump against Canada and Mexico, as well as China and the European Union(potentially), this article will need to be updated significantly over the coming days, weeks and months. Particularly in the History and Modern Tariff practices sections. As events are still rapidly unfolding, I do not think it is fair for people to be working on this right away, particularly with concerns to political bias and obvious tensions created. However, significant editing and additions must be made. Thank you. 2604:3D08:A287:A400:9C1C:D237:E57B:EBDD (talk) 10:24, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- What specific improvements do you believe are needed to the article and why aren't you making them? Wikipedia is not a newspaper or a current affairs magazine. If the article as it stands doesn't explain the 'strategy' of the current US régime, maybe that tells you more about the strategy than it does about the article.
- (NB if you do decide to contribute, please be advised that Wikipedia is founded on reliable sources, so find the evidence first then summarise it. Wikipedia is not an opinion forum.) --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 10:46, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
Needs clarification of "tariff" vs. "duty"
[edit]After defining "tariff" in the first sentence, the second sentence begins, "Besides being a source of revenue, import duties...". Anyone looking for clarity now has to look for the definition of "duty" to see if there's a difference. The Wikipedia entry for "Duty" does not mention this usage of the word, so one is left to know to look for a disambiguation page (and find "Duty_(tax)"), or guess, or do a lot of additional searching to feel satisfied they know what is being claimed here.
This switch is unnecessary and needs fixing, perhaps by extending the definition:
A tariff is a tax or duty_(tax)...
But I don't know how to hide the "_(tax)" bit from the displayed text... Wayne.brehaut (talk) 23:05, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
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