Talk:Indigenous peoples of Arizona
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Zunis
[edit]Zunis are not far from Arizona but the Rez is entirely in New Mexico, and I wonder if it's accurate to list them on this page. ;Bear 17:14, 2004 Jul 27 (UTC)
Who cares where the rez is? This is talking about people, not carvings of land. The Zuni have lived for hundreds of years in the Zuni River Valley which includes parts of Arizona, and there are still Zuni living in the Arizona part of the valley and many of them speak the language.
BIA tribe list
[edit]Been meaning to add this list of tribes and their webpage links to wikipedia for a long time. But it begs the effort to link more articles to the category of the same name, which is almost empty right now. 24.221.121.232 05:28, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Native American tribes in Arizona
[edit]Because Native American peoples have been inhabiting what is now the state of Arizona since long before the state was created, I'm proposing this article be moved to Native American tribes in Arizona. As these peoples pre-date the formation of Arizona, the word "of" is not as accurate as the word "in". This wording would also match the wording chosen for Indigenous peoples in the United States and Native Americans in the United States. I welcome comments and suggestions regarding this proposal. Kurieeto 17:29, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
I see your point... but I have opposite reaction: "of" has a more permanent weight to it to me. Anyone can come to Arizona and be "in" it, but you must be native to be "of" it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.17.85.152 (talk) 02:53, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
You have this backwards, IMO. "Indigenous peoples in Arizona" can be talked about like "Asian people in Arizona" or "White people in Arizona": a group of people who showed up there relatively recently, and are just "in" the area, maybe even just visiting (!). Using the word "of" adds a greater sense of permanence: they are indigenous to what is now Arizona, thus they are the indigenous peoples of Arizona. --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 15:07, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
A few small issues.
[edit]What is meant by "Southern Paiute" in this list? Could we perhaps break it into "San Juan Southern Paiute Tribe of Arizona" and "Kaibab Band of Paiute Indians"? The Chemehuevi are considered a southern Paiute people as well....
I think it would be nice if this article could be expanded more and perhaps discuss tribal interrelations, influence, commonalities etc.
For example, here is a breakdown of tribes by language family:
Uto-Aztecan
Hopi: Hopi
Numic: Southern Paiute, Chemehuevi
Tepiman: Tohono O’odham (Papago), Akimel O’odham (Pima)
Taracahitic: Yaqui
Athabaskan
Apache: Chiricahua, Dilzhę́’é (Tonto), San Carlos, White Mountain
Navajo
Kiowa-Tanoan
Tewa
Yuman
Delta-Californian: Cocopah
River Yuman: Quechan (Yuma), Maricopa (Pii-paash), Mohave (Hamakhava), Halchidhoma
Pai: Yavapai, Hualapai, Havasupai
Zuni (language isolate)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.17.85.152 (talk) 03:05, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
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